From looking at videos of animals it is not from just other humans but from the trees and the animals as well that we are given Eden’s grace if not God’s to correct our mistakes and forgive our transgressions-- so add that to the conversation of meaning and social worth ; add not our ideas but our instincts to love and care for .
Bottom line : if there had been no Jack my life and my art would have taken a different turn : Jack wrote an article for Film Culture about the LA film festival where he was the judge a
long with John Fles snd Stan Brakhage prizing and praising my feature film , Georg , in 1963 -- a film in which you played the young Georg; a film in which Wallace and Dean helped set up the missile base shots ; and Kirby Doyle (deceased) had a small part as well as Bobby Notkoff ( deceased).
I this is also expressed differently by Marxist Critics -- all of whom are trying to make things work with their minds that like wild animals aren’t easily tamed .
As an old practitioner, I might add that even in the strictest communist countries. , it’s not by reason but by love and compassion and contradiction that even people like Jack survive , and the best ideas too
Marx saw it and described it as capitalist contradiction ( grace of god? Human kindness ; mercy of society ?sigh of the opressed?) etc
Flaubert’s vision saw it as an illusion .
So did Freud with amazing cocaine like clarity .
Jung saw it I think more clearly as part of a collective consciousness-and gave its non rational explanation a chance to grow despite too narrow ideas of perfection that might be wrong!
Jack was at the intersection of art and commerce -- when one looks at Flaubert’s Sentimental Education , you see that intersection like a train coming at him on all fours like a panther .
It was a dillema how to integrate ideas with the means to live for them .
Jack had a very strong belief in family and what happened to him with his son no one should ever have happen -- he died of progressive cancer -- I think they kept cutting
It broke his family apart --- Ruth -- his ex wife--holds that story profoundly ... I don’t really know it well --but it left Jack with a dilemma. What was he living for ?
He became a street poet -- he was running from trying to make his mind work for a family he didn’t have anymore .
He managed to organize an office international poets festival in multiple languages ... it was as pure a dream realized as he could imagine-- words at the center of meaning --
Given his explanation here it fits with Wallace ‘s collage sensibility.
The real problem was how to cross over from the free mind to freedom to live and work -- and to live freely without bias without pain , without suffering and have it mean something to others without fear that it’s going to be misunderstood and worthless
Thanks for this interview Tosh. I believe I saw it on another occasion but I like Jack Hirschman’s poetry and his personality too.
From looking at videos of animals it is not from just other humans but from the trees and the animals as well that we are given Eden’s grace if not God’s to correct our mistakes and forgive our transgressions-- so add that to the conversation of meaning and social worth ; add not our ideas but our instincts to love and care for .
Bottom line : if there had been no Jack my life and my art would have taken a different turn : Jack wrote an article for Film Culture about the LA film festival where he was the judge a
long with John Fles snd Stan Brakhage prizing and praising my feature film , Georg , in 1963 -- a film in which you played the young Georg; a film in which Wallace and Dean helped set up the missile base shots ; and Kirby Doyle (deceased) had a small part as well as Bobby Notkoff ( deceased).
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I this is also expressed differently by Marxist Critics -- all of whom are trying to make things work with their minds that like wild animals aren’t easily tamed .
As an old practitioner, I might add that even in the strictest communist countries. , it’s not by reason but by love and compassion and contradiction that even people like Jack survive , and the best ideas too
Marx saw it and described it as capitalist contradiction ( grace of god? Human kindness ; mercy of society ?sigh of the opressed?) etc
Flaubert’s vision saw it as an illusion .
So did Freud with amazing cocaine like clarity .
Jung saw it I think more clearly as part of a collective consciousness-and gave its non rational explanation a chance to grow despite too narrow ideas of perfection that might be wrong!
Jack was at the intersection of art and commerce -- when one looks at Flaubert’s Sentimental Education , you see that intersection like a train coming at him on all fours like a panther .
It was a dillema how to integrate ideas with the means to live for them .
Jack had a very strong belief in family and what happened to him with his son no one should ever have happen -- he died of progressive cancer -- I think they kept cutting
It broke his family apart --- Ruth -- his ex wife--holds that story profoundly ... I don’t really know it well --but it left Jack with a dilemma. What was he living for ?
He became a street poet -- he was running from trying to make his mind work for a family he didn’t have anymore .
He managed to organize an office international poets festival in multiple languages ... it was as pure a dream realized as he could imagine-- words at the center of meaning --
Given his explanation here it fits with Wallace ‘s collage sensibility.
The real problem was how to cross over from the free mind to freedom to live and work -- and to live freely without bias without pain , without suffering and have it mean something to others without fear that it’s going to be misunderstood and worthless
Especially when you don’t have a family